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07/16/2009 12:46:52 AM EST

Crying wolf?

posted by Robrob

Over and over again, one particular sockpuppet on TYT accuses the other posters of being sockpuppets.

Frankly, I am in total favor of the TYT management banning forever anyone using a sockpuppet, past present or future.

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If someone constantly and falsely accuses you of something (that he does himself), does that make the accuser a liar, hypocrite, crazy, or what?

He insists he "knows" my true identify. The problem is this is the first and only name I've ever used on TYT. I suppose if he had balls he'd confront me or at least say who it was he thought I really was.

That and the thinly veiled legal threats about "dispositions" of the TYT PM log. Seriously, it's psychotic.
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Crying wolf? | 51 comments (51 topical, 1 hidden)
Yeah, let's clear the air on this. (4.50 / 2)
That way we can get back to "corps" vs. "core" chat, which is obviously what we all want.

by Spencer on 07/16/2009 02:31:09 AM EST

It is his only defense (4.20 / 4)
I am in total favor of the TYT management banning forever anyone using a sockpuppet, past present or future.

Tough to legislate. All you need to start a new TYT account is a unique email address. And it can't be proven that two email addresses belong to the same individual, even if they are both accessed from the same IP address. (Plus, I have admitted to using two usernames other than OneHitKill, so I'd be incriminating myself if I were to second your proposal.)

A much easier rule to enforce would be, "NO KEN-LIKE BEHAVIOR ALLOWED."


That and the thinly veiled legal threats about "dispositions" of the TYT PM log. Seriously, it's psychotic.

It's quirky, to be sure.

by OneHitKill on 07/16/2009 02:16:10 AM EST

Guess I hit ... (1.80 / 3)
A little too close to home having my remarks erased so soon... ;)

by bobo1 on 07/16/2009 01:29:06 PM EST

Your comments were erased? (2.40 / 3)
Guess I need to start giving you 5s again?

by Hugh Everett on 07/16/2009 02:02:42 PM EST

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Not me (none / 1)
Bobo claims his comments have been erased. Please leave alone any comments from him on this topic.

"And don't forget, Sherrod Brown is black. There's a racial component here, too." Rush Limbaugh 02/14/06

by Robrob on 07/16/2009 01:39:22 PM EST

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He didn't put anything up (none / 1)
The only hidden comment was the stupid one which was once again accusing you of being a sockpuppet.

It was trying to derail the thread, and I'm happy that it is gone now.

by birdboy1 on 07/16/2009 02:22:29 PM EST

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Key-rist (none / 0)
According to the wingnuts every new poster here is a sockpuppet. Must be hard for TYT to build viewership.

"And don't forget, Sherrod Brown is black. There's a racial component here, too." Rush Limbaugh 02/14/06

by Robrob on 07/16/2009 05:15:43 PM EST

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I'm behind in my reading (none / 1)

Could you post a link to the last occurrence, please?

by MedfordTim on 07/16/2009 03:34:35 AM EST

Bringing Tim up to date. (3.50 / 1)
I offered a formal surrender to Robrob, but he refused it.

As you can see at the bottom of this post, I've even incorporated the surrender into my sig line.

The fact that Rob wants to carry on about this issue has become a running gag and source of amusement.

I just want to go on record as refusing to disclose the identity of other participants, even though I've been the victim of malicious outing on numerous occasions.

by Hugh Everett on 07/16/2009 04:13:22 AM EST

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Sigh... (none / 1)
"I offered a formal surrender to Robrob"

And then continued to make accusations you can't/won't back up. You could just stop.

"The fact that Rob wants to carry on about this issue has become a running gag and source of amusement."

The easy answer then is to either put up or shut up. Or would that be too "manly" for you?

"I just want to go on record as refusing to disclose the identity of other participants, even though I've been the victim of malicious outing on numerous occasions."

It's all about you isn't it? Problem is, that's just a convenient excuse for when you make accusations you can't support. Likewise when you complain about people who respond to your posts or getting your feelings hurt and threatening legal action.

Please, grow up.

"And don't forget, Sherrod Brown is black. There's a racial component here, too." Rush Limbaugh 02/14/06

by Robrob on 07/16/2009 01:18:26 PM EST

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Wanna fill MY request now? (none / 1)

a link to the last occurence, please.

by MedfordTim on 07/16/2009 02:37:04 PM EST

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sure, here it is (none / 1)
click here for link

by birdboy1 on 07/16/2009 02:52:55 PM EST

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Assuming you mean (none / 1)
the last occurrence of the sock puppet accusation, here's one, and here's another one.  "Robrob is behaving much more politely than he did in previous incarnations."

by Spencer on 07/16/2009 02:56:14 PM EST

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You miss understood me, Sir. (none / 0)
I was referring to his previous life, before he was reincarnated.

When he was a wharf rat.

by Hugh Everett on 07/16/2009 03:45:43 PM EST

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Thank you Spence & Birdy (none / 0)

Glad i stay out of (almost) all of those "discussions."

They make my brain hurt. Even if I do get a few laughs here and there at how over the top they get. Seems to bring out the insanity on both sides.

For the record, it took about four years to convince Ken that I don't use any other nic than mine. Hang in there, he'll come around.

by MedfordTim on 07/16/2009 03:48:28 PM EST

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MedfordTim is a sock puppet! (none / 0)
He really lives in Melbourne, FL; 4000 miles from Medford, Oregon.

by Hugh Everett on 07/16/2009 08:53:11 PM EST

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it makes my brain hurt (none / 0)
that you defend such a low life ass hole

A conservative believes nothing should be done for the first time

by C D on 07/17/2009 10:00:14 AM EST

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You nailed me on one of the charges. (none / 0)
“Do you deny posting guesses about users real names on the blog?”

I am guilty as charged.

Big deal.

by Hugh Everett on 07/16/2009 04:10:12 PM EST

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interesting proposal (none / 0)
"You should request that Dave delete all your sock puppets and Ken TX account."

A chance to start fresh and demonstrate improved relations is very appealing.

Of course I could no longer recycle my favorite graphs, pie charts, and photos of Palestinian camels.

And I would lose the (literally) hundreds of exculpatory PMs. These messages contain the truth of what really happened, and it bothers me to give them up.

Maybe we should start the forum again at T0? We did it once before.

I need to discuss this matter with Tim, Dave, and Fred.

by Hugh Everett on 07/17/2009 07:15:50 AM EST

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Damning evidence indeed. (none / 0)
IP addresses were used to link sock puppets, not identify home towns. Every participant in the forum is proud to describe their hometown.

Fred lives in Melbourne, FL.

Pear lives in Portland.

Sean lives in Portland.

Hazmat lives in Portland.


Jazzie lives in Tampa.

Pensacola lives in Pensacola.

Pritch lives outside Salt Lake City.

Rich lives in Buda, TX.

Bobo lives in Phoenix.

Mookie lives in Phoenix.

Twba lives in Phoenix.

Chris lives in Indianapolis.

Spencer lives in Colorado Springs.

Hubble lives in Atlanta.

Acroso lives in Memphis.

Zenie lives in Salisbury, MD.

Gatekeeper lives in Seattle.

Jesse lives in Japan.

Zippy lives in Syracuse.

EveningStar lives in Las Cruces.

by Hugh Everett on 07/16/2009 08:23:50 PM EST

Is bobo okay with (none / 0)

you linking to his school info like that? Also, you admit to IP tracing in that same thread.

Props for linking to Twba calling him a bigot though.  That's always fun.

by Spencer on 07/16/2009 08:34:00 PM EST

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I gotta admit, (none / 0)
I didn't even read the posts.

In most cases, I simply plugged in geographical names and linked whatever popped up.

by Hugh Everett on 07/16/2009 08:46:53 PM EST

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That's your angle? (none / 0)
"A guy who appropriates company computer time to find this information."

Whew! What a relief!

I was wondering where you were taking this, Perry Mason. (Oh, by the way, that's another "threat", but a really weak one.)

Let's review a few facts:

1. I didn't IP trace anybody, because I don't even know how.

2. The company I was working for back in the year 2004 (or wherever you pulled this stuff) no longer even exists. They sold out, and the purchasing entity filed bankruptcy. Look into it, Mr. e-Stalker. You should already have all of this stuff in your files.

3. I was certainly allowed to use my laptop for personal business, because I was on the road three weeks at a time.

4. When I was living in a hotel (which was always), I was usually using hotel provided equipment. (Because I like to print stuff off RCP and other sites, creating my own Super Conservative Newspaper.)

5. My Dad is highly unlikely to fire me for fukking with liberals. I actually like you guys very much, but he hates your guts. This Cap & Trade stuff will kill the drilling business. (But solar arrays and wind turbines are showing promise.)

by Hugh Everett on 07/16/2009 09:38:05 PM EST

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"Are you serious?" (none / 0)
"One poster caught your inconstancies and called you on it, the "hundreds of computers" and so forth. Instead of dropping it you piled it on thicker and deeper."
Did you not just read the explanation about living in hotel rooms from coast to coast, and using their computers? Hundreds of hotels over the years.

How else could a person rack up 60 logins at a time (like I used to do)? That's the only explanation I can come up with. Don't like it? OK, your the computer jock. Let's hear yours. Tell us how it's done.

As far as being oblique with regard to personal info, I have no choice. I'm dealing with a couple of people who harbor pathological hatred of all things conservative.

I have nothing " on you" other than what has been posted on this website."
Anything posted on this website about me that was unauthorized came directly from your research, not Jesse's. You forget that I've witnessed your handiwork up close.

"e-stalker? Funny. You have no clue."
I've got more than just a clue old buddy. Knowing your persona, the PM log has got to be a gold mine.

So I've been impolite while using a company laptop from a hotel room back in 2004? In the words of Eminem: "Are you serious?"

by Hugh Everett on 07/16/2009 11:23:34 PM EST

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The internet is forever. (none / 0)
"The PM log nonsense refers to email Sherlock . I doubt TYT is under any requirement to retain the internal messages."

Oh no you don't. It's not that easy. The internet is forever. You of all people know that.

Conspiring with another party to harm someone is called conspiracy. Trying to cover up your misdeeds is called obstruction of justice. The PM log contains much of the story, and private email accounts contain the rest of the story.

I have an idea! Why don't we simply be nice to each other? You know. Let's try to disagree in a polite manner.

by Hugh Everett on 07/17/2009 05:52:26 PM EST

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If you see my friend (1.00 / 0)
please ask him to return. He's kinda like my Dad. My respect for him makes me want to avoid disappointing him.

by Hugh Everett on 07/18/2009 11:34:05 AM EST

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OMG (none / 0)
"Conspiring with another party to harm someone is called conspiracy. Trying to cover up your misdeeds is called obstruction of justice. The PM log contains much of the story, and private email accounts contain the rest of the story."

Bwahahahaha!

Getting your feelings hurt over the internet hardly classifies as "harm"!

"And don't forget, Sherrod Brown is black. There's a racial component here, too." Rush Limbaugh 02/14/06

by Robrob on 07/18/2009 04:28:06 PM EST

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But solar arrays and wind turbines (none / 0)
"are showing promise."

Not according to Limbaugh.

"And don't forget, Sherrod Brown is black. There's a racial component here, too." Rush Limbaugh 02/14/06

by Robrob on 07/17/2009 12:27:08 AM EST

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Solar arrays and wind turbines work great (none / 0)
if you're if you're objective is selling metal components.

They don't work at all if you're objective is to achieve low cost per KWH.

by Hugh Everett on 07/17/2009 12:36:39 AM EST

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One of these days, (none / 0)
I'm gonna work out that "your" versus "you're" thing.

But clearly, not today.

by Hugh Everett on 07/17/2009 12:40:46 AM EST

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Common enough error (none / 0)
Especially if you use a Blackberry while driving.

Your = This is your car.
You're = You are driving.

There should be a macro to catch the grammar of that when texting, as well as "to, too, two" which gets even more abuse.

"And don't forget, Sherrod Brown is black. There's a racial component here, too." Rush Limbaugh 02/14/06

by Robrob on 07/18/2009 04:22:12 PM EST

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let us alson not forget (none / 1)
There, Their and They're

The writing is on the wall. Read it.

by aidbo on 07/18/2009 06:37:22 PM EST

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and of course (5.00 / 2)
Core and Corps!

by eborujion on 07/18/2009 09:32:20 PM EST

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Pretty good advice. (none / 0)
Here's some advice from the TYT member who I respect more than any other: 

"Simply put its not illegal to post or repost information in the public domain. Most websites state that clearly in the TOS."

by Hugh Everett on 07/17/2009 01:48:28 AM EST

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actually i don't (none / 0)
live in indianapolis...not to mention, you're digging up proof that the libs know what they're talking about...I called the primaries, and I called the election, Indiana included...maybe you need to start reading what we say more intently...

Chris

by chrisandyasemin on 07/16/2009 09:54:20 PM EST

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You just exposed me. (none / 0)
All I did was type states in the search bar and link the comment. Obviously I barely read it: "Chris lives in Indy". For all I know you live in Alaska with Diddy.

by Hugh Everett on 07/17/2009 06:01:28 AM EST

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you'll never know for sure (none / 0)
I could be Diddy's sock puppet...

Can't stop Won't stop
Chris

by chrisandyasemin on 07/18/2009 07:57:30 PM EST

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So you keep a list of where TYT members live? (none / 0)
Noooooo, that's not creepy at all.

"And don't forget, Sherrod Brown is black. There's a racial component here, too." Rush Limbaugh 02/14/06

by Robrob on 07/17/2009 12:25:46 AM EST

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Took me about 15 minutes. (none / 0)
Type Portland into the comments search bar, and see how many people live in Portland.

Now try it with Phoenix.

I know. I know. I'm brilliant.

by Hugh Everett on 07/17/2009 12:48:20 AM EST

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Type Portland into the comments search bar (none / 0)
"and see how many people live in Portland."

So you typed the name of every major city in America into the search bar so you could make a list of where TYT posters live?

Nooooo, that's not creepy at all.

"And don't forget, Sherrod Brown is black. There's a racial component here, too." Rush Limbaugh 02/14/06

by Robrob on 07/17/2009 04:33:33 PM EST

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I used states primarily. (none / 0)
I’ve already been busted on this because Chris exposed me.

I typed in Indiana and this comment came up. So I said Chris was from Indianapolis when he is clearly from Bloomington.

Same thing with Utah. I don’t even know who Pritch is, but he lives in Utah.

I threw a couple of cities in, because we know there are several forum people in Phoenix and Portland.

For example, Sean and I have tangled on college football, but I didn’t know he was from Portland until I typed in that city.

by Hugh Everett on 07/17/2009 05:07:30 PM EST

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What do you mean by 'hometown'? (none / 0)

I don't think I have used the name of the actual city I live in once -- it would creep me out and I wouldn't feel safe doing it.

But if by 'hometown' you mean where I was born, or where I grew up...yeah...I've mentioned that.

So, Ken, where do I live?

by opiman000 on 07/17/2009 03:56:17 PM EST

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ooops! (none / 0)

My bad! I called Hugh, 'Ken'...hahahahha

I am so confused by sockpuppets...

by opiman000 on 07/17/2009 04:02:03 PM EST

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Oh My GOOOOD!! (none / 0)

No, tell me it isn't true!!

Somehow, some way, someone figured out that I'am posting comments from an IP in MEDFORD????

What gave it away? Oh, how am I ever going to live this down? My cover is blown!


>>Yawn<<

by MedfordTim on 07/16/2009 10:35:48 PM EST

Wait you mean (none / 0)
You don't live in Melbourne, FL?

"And don't forget, Sherrod Brown is black. There's a racial component here, too." Rush Limbaugh 02/14/06

by Robrob on 07/17/2009 12:29:45 AM EST

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Orlando, Australia! (none / 0)

Yeee Ha!

by MedfordTim on 07/17/2009 12:38:39 AM EST

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excuse me Tim (none / 0)

...but aren't you usually invisible?

...clearly this 'someone' has greater powers than we know

...be vewwwwy vewwwwy careful....

by opiman000 on 07/17/2009 03:59:08 PM EST

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